IBIS Macromodel Task Group Meeting date: 17 oct 2006 Members (asterisk for those attending): * Arpad Muranyi, Intel Corp. * Barry Katz, SiSoft * Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group Doug White, Cisco Systems Hemant Shah, Cadence Design Systems Ian Dodd, Mentor Graphics * Joe Abler, IBM * John Angulo John Shields, Mentor Graphics Ken Willis, Cadence Design Systems * Kumar, Cadence Design Systems * Lance Wang, Cadence Design Systems * Michael Mirmak, Intel Corp. * Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems Paul Fernando, NCSU * Randy Wolff, Micron Technology Richard Ward, Texas Instruments Sanjeev Gupta, Agilent Shangli Wu, Cadence * Todd Westerhoff, Cisco Systems * Walter Katz, SiSoft Vuk Borich, Agilent Vikas Gupta, Xilinx ------------- Review of ARs: - Michael will try to get access to the IEEE document they are voting on. He will check into access restrictions first. If we get access to it, we will need a couple of volunteers to read the document and see if it is worth our while. - TBD - Mike to post this powerpoint presentation to the website. - Done - Macro Library Documentation - Mike will get to this in Nov ------------- New Discussion: Arpad encouraged us to read the Verilog AMS LRM: http://www.eda.org/verilog-ams/htmlpages/public-docs/lrm/2.2/AMS-LRM-2-2.pdf Arpad showed us an example of a Verilog-AMS resistor module that calls a resistor VPI. He showed the Verilog and C code for this. Question: Is this good enough for linear simulation? The Cadence API proposal is much more generic. Kumar showed a presentation on proposed changes to IBIS. AMI = Algorithmic Model Interface Discussion on where the impulse response comes from. Electrical characterization of the driver and receiver are needed for this. How will the IBIS file convey the model info required for characterization? It could be conveyed by a "legacy" IBIS buffer or AMS. Walter believed we should ask IC vendors how they feel their receiver models should be characterized. Arpad felt that that is the "algorithmic part", but we are currently discussing the "waveform part". Michael Mirmak believed that we are taking IBIS into the realm of channel simulation, so the algorithmic part is a valid discussion. Debate ensued on whether or not IBIS should contain enough model info to implement channel optimization, which goes beyond merely passing parameters. Walter felt that channel design is fluid and changes a lot, and anything implemented in IBIS would be restrictive. ------------- Next meeting: Tuesday 24 Oct 2006 12:00pm PT